I’ve really been on a kick lately since I brought home all of our boat cushions. After great success adding 1 inch of the magical green foam to our Salon cushions, I couldn’t wait to try it under our V-berth cushion foam.
I debated a while on what to do with these cushions because they are older and in worse shape than the ones in the salon. Maybe we should just replace the foam all together? The foam is no longer level with the left side being squished and much flatter than the right side which is up against the hull. I’m assuming this area of the cushion has seen the most weight over time. The squished side is so flat you can actually feel the wood divider between the triangle insert and the main piece when rolling over in bed. Not fun.
So how to fix this?
Well, what the hell, let’s give that green foam another shot and pick up some Poly Batting for good measure. This time I used 1 1/2 of the ILD 140 green foam in a sheet 24 x 72 for $60 plus 3 yards of super lofty batting for $20. Only $80 total, my kind of cost!
First I laid on all the cushions to determine where the slant was and then took about 20 minutes measuring and trying to make the best use of the green foam. One sheet wasn’t enough to fill all of the sections so I had to be strategic. Besides if I put the foam everywhere then I’ve still got the slant, only 1 1/2 inches higher.
Here is how the Vberth is laid out if you are looking aft. To the right is Port, the top is Aft, and the bottom is Fore. It is the right Port side that is thicker then where the large cushion meets the triangle piece.

I decided to cut the foam about in half but at an angle in order to taper the support off where the foam is thicker. An electric knife would have been best but we don’t have one so this serrated knife worked just as well.

I choose to put most of the foam where our shoulders and bodies would apply the most weight and where the foam was squished the most. I figured the top part would be full of pillows and so didn’t really need the foam. I also opted to run the foam horizontal to minimize discomfort in the event the foam separates and leaves a gap.

You can kind of see how the right side is thicker.

I pretty much had to get inside the covers with the foam and Poly barring to arrange them. This is something I’d prefer to not have to do often, lol. We’ll definitely be using sheets.

I had just enough left over foam for the triangle insert. I opted to do that instead of the bottom piece since it will take most of the body weight. Besides our feet don’t need to be raised and often the front of V-berth is higher with waves and at anchor.

Now to deal with the unlevel cushion foam I doubled up on the Poly fill just about 12 inches toward the middle. The rest of the cushion got a single layer.

I managed somehow to get it all in the cover. Even though these pieces don’t fill the cover fully, the cushion is unbelievably level and soft. Things are looking good.

One single layer for the triangle insert,

And two layers for the bottom piece since it didn’t get any green foam. I would have put 3 or 4 layers of Poly fill but this was the last of it. It’s fine for now, we can always add more later.

Amazingly the triangle insert and main piece are quite level! A huge difference.

Finito!

Tate and I have both laid on these and seriously the difference is awesome! I almost fell asleep trying them out. I am so excited to have a comfortable sleeping mattress finally and for only $80 with 2 hours of work. It doesn’t look perfect, but you can’t tell the difference when laying. It’s hard to give a percent but I’d say a solid 75% improvement.
Good enough
We were going to try a latex layer instead of the Poly fill on top, but was afraid it was be squished too much and ineffective since we went with the 1 1/2 green foam. We have other big plans for the scrap of latex.
Anywho, hopefully my late night meanderings will be helpful to a few. Next on my list are exterior canvas and slip covers. (Thanks SO much for everyone’s input and color advice. I have picked a color and will unveil it when the covers are finished. Can’t wait to see how they turn out.)
Until next time, stay classy.


19 comments
January 30, 2013 at 10:25 am
Don’t forget to use some type of mat to allow air flow under the cushions. Dri-deck or if you have ever seen a “Cool Cushion” for cars without air conditioners. It will keep the mildew away and Tate will sleep much cooler. We just used them under our upper body as the legs don’t create much heat.
January 30, 2013 at 10:34 am
Yes! Something like that or this Dry Mesh stuff. I wonder if condensation is only a problem in cooler climates or if it will effect us in the Carib and S. Pacific also? The V-berth in the Westsail is tricky since the mattress is sandwiched between bulkheads and the hull. Hopefully we’ll find something to work.
January 30, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Definitely absodamnlutely used in warm areas. Its the body heat causing the moisture to condense. You would not believe how much water can accumulate.
The Dry Mesh seems to do the same. Never know what you might find on the cheap. Even Home Depot/Lowe’s has them cheaper than WMarine. Also look for floor mats. Just anything to give a little space between board and cushion.
February 1, 2013 at 12:11 am
Well that’s good to know. I kinda only thought it was in the cold climates you need that, but then I haven’t really started researching that part of the project. I’m going to opt for the lightest and easiest thing to add and move.
January 30, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Great job! I love it when you can get good results from a small investment. And the covers look like they are in great shape. If you need more loft in the future, you could always just put a layer of foam sandwiched between those and whatever you put down for air circulation. We put our memory foam layer on top of our v berth mattress and it works like a charm. I know you don’t want memory foam, but any kind of foam would work that way, right?
January 30, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Thanks! The result is really pretty awesome. The covers are just fine, plus they’ll be covered with sheets and blankets anyways while out there. I am happy I took the risk to modify what we currently have instead of going all brand new. Alot of people LOVE memory foam, but for us something else will work fine too.
January 30, 2013 at 1:44 pm
Whoooh cushions and foam, my favorite!! You are rocking this, lady!
January 30, 2013 at 2:02 pm
Yes! In fact Charlotte your post detailing the snap on waterproof cover has given me tons of ideas for when I tackle the slip cover project. You have SO many good posts about cushions and sewing
. I especially like the one where you sew a custom size blanket for the Vberth. I have a feeling I might borrow some of your creative ideas!
January 31, 2013 at 9:59 am
On the subject of comfortable beds have you two looked into this:
http://www.frolisleepsystems.com/ I saw it demo’d at the boat show a few years ago and was impressed. Raises the cushion so you get air flow and less damp and mold, and also gives a bit more spring. It can be adjusted in stiffness too.
There is a second system out there with sprung battens. Heres the European version, there is a US made one but the name escapes me. http://www.bedflex.com/sprachen/france/index_M_f.html
Again, raised up so there is less damp and mold and a sprung sleep. Being heavier than most I’m looking at one or the other.
However, neither system is cheap. I plan on using it only in the sleeping area. For sitting I’ll go with the normal cushion over plywood.
February 1, 2013 at 12:15 am
We have! The Froli system looks cool, but it also looks complicated. We have cabinets under our mattresses that we’ll have to get to. Steve Yoder explained a very complicated (to me) way he worked around this with like a removable piece etc. The bed is actually VERY comfortable now so I dont think we need anything more springy if it will add complication.
I actually put the scrap latex I bought online for $100. It was 1″ 21 ILD Talalay “Fast Response/Celsion”, supposedly the cooling latex. Well let me tell you, that bed was actually much cooler! I am shocked and so excited. It made the bed softer and I think it really will help with the heat. It’s amazing stuff. I want to do the salon cushions with it also but so far just can’t spring for the $250 it would cost.
If I could have I would’ve done the 27 ILD because it is firmer and the 21 ILD is very very soft, but its what they had and is good enough.
February 5, 2013 at 7:33 am
The cushions in Wind Affair are a bit on the worn and tattered side as well, so I am keeping close tabs on your progress here! Thanks so much sharing – and I’m anxious to see what color y’all chose!
February 5, 2013 at 12:11 pm
No problem. I received the material and it is amazing! I think it’s the real deal (Ultrasuede Ambiance) I bought it off of Ebay from a seller who gets remnants from big furniture manufacturers in North Carolina. She has limited color/sizes to sell and you have to check the color ID with the colors at Ultrasuede.com because the pics aren’t accurate. But she sells them at about $22- $27/yard x 55″ as opposed to $90/yd from a distributor.
I also read about others doing this on sewing forums and whatnot. I bought two seperate pieces of fabric that were delivered sepearately and they are exactly the same material. I believe this to be authentic and not fake. I have ordered a sample from TORAY (ultrasuede manufacturer) to compare. It should be here shortly.
Some people don’t trust Ebay and it’s low prices. I however LOVE Ebay and have been doing it for well over 10 years. You just have to know what you are looking at and read the seller ratings and feedback. (Pestycat) is the seller id. Just remember to look for the Ultrasuede Ambiance line as it is the heavy weight Ultrasuede used for upholstery. They also make other lighter material which you want to avoid.
I’m making the first slip cover tonight and can’t wait to post the results.
February 6, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Hi Tate & Dani Downer!
Love the blog but I must say lately its like reading Women’s World magazine. No offense to the ladies but what the hell happened to the Skipper? I know it’s chilly, weekends are short and it gets dark early but I miss the wrench turning, wire splicing and epoxy shmearing! C’mon Skip tighten up and keep us posted……:))
Sincerely,
John C. WS702
SV Anna Star
February 6, 2013 at 11:41 pm
Hi John,
Never fear. I’m still alive and kicking and bleeding and cursing and spitting hell fire. Had some “glitches” installing the bowsprit. Don’t worry a blog post is forthcoming. Once I get the sprit itself out of the way, I’ll have a lot more to write about. Sorry its all pink and lace in here lately. Dani just can’t help herself.
Your testosterone fueled friend,
Tate
February 7, 2013 at 1:20 am
What KIND of glitches? These are details I miss as my sprit is the same as yours and is awaiting install. Your findings and follies may save me a little agony and money too:))
What are using for a backing plate? Do you worry about the elimination of the Samson/bulkhead connection? How are you going to lift Jefe? These are more important things than where to put a doylie. Its like your trying to sail inside Jeanne’s bottle. Dani’s blogging is superb….Yours is suffering and I fear the pink mafia will overtake us….Please Skipper give us the details we yearn for and do our gender proud.
February 17, 2013 at 6:41 pm
…recently found your blog…love it. We’re on a sim schedule as you…out of hear (Seattle area) around 03/15, then a slow meander doen the coast to the Sea of Cortez. Good luck…keep up the good work.
February 17, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Welcome Kim & Steve. Sounds like an awesome plan. The Sea of Cortez sure looks like some prime cruising territory to us.
April 7, 2013 at 12:23 pm
I tried to find the “Magical Green Foam ” locally , but the North Sail loft has no clue as to what I am referring to !
Do you know where online , I could order some ?
Thanks
April 7, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Hello! I ordered the foam from a place in Texas called Rush foam. See the website here. The green foam is the Matrix 25140 and comes in sheet 24″ x 72″ (I think) in 0.5″, 1″ and 1.5″.
I’m sure there are other distributors out there but you have to look for a foam with a 2.5lb density and an ILD of 140-145. Goodluck!
Matrix 25140
Weight: 2.5 lb. per cubic foot ILD 140-145
Use: Very firm, high shock-absorbency foam used when building up seats, tractor seats, wrestling mats, and athletic equipment.